Curse

tafy69 · Dec 21, 2005, 10:54 PM // 22:54

Wouldnt it be funny if gold was made mostly worthless in chapter 2, oh wait... it already is lol

Ubernoob · Dec 21, 2005, 11:12 PM // 23:12

First off I must scream "ONE MILLION GOLD OMFGBBQ BATMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!1111oneoneeleventyone!!11" How did you manage to get that much money!?!?

Okay so what im thinking is why would you want that much gold anyway? I mean just keep the million in the bank for the second chapter by all means but why would you need any more? Im sure you could put it to good use like say.. fissure amour? or 15k for all your characters? I dont really see the point in having all this money stored away when you could be making your characters look damn good... even if all your characters have the amour how about helping out your guildies or something like that. Do something constructive

Im no rich ass but when I got 3 of my characters 15k I didnt have the need to make anymore money so I just made a pre sear character and found any noobs, taught them to play, and brought them their first set of amour at poast searing, deleted my char and did it again.

MMSDome · Dec 22, 2005, 01:23 AM // 01:23

invest in monstrous items everyone, ill be sure to make the prices jump

FeuerFrei · Dec 22, 2005, 02:44 AM // 02:44

1,000,000,000 GC!!!!!!!!!!!!!thats insane.....as mentioned above...what about weapon mods.....

AncientPC · Dec 22, 2005, 03:08 AM // 03:08

You have 3 extra 0's there . . .

Tele77 · Dec 22, 2005, 04:09 AM // 04:09

I have been having the exact same conerns as most of you here. I have maxed my storage and 3 PVE chars, +45 Ectos. I could lose lots of cash if ectos flop and I want to stop that obviously. Black dye seems a bit shaky because although that will always look cool, they could add new dyes that also look pimp in chapter 2.

If anymore ideas surface post them here I'd be very interested. (ps I already bought a IDS sword and put +30 pommel on it) they are not costing very much already on the first day... they drop too often imo, wont sell for more than 35k.

Shanaeri Rynale · Dec 22, 2005, 04:30 AM // 04:30

Here's an off the wall idea. Sell all your spare cash on Ebay, then buy it back when you need it...

(runs away and hides...)

Pompeyfan · Dec 22, 2005, 04:40 AM // 04:40

I'm wondering if Superior Vigor's aren't the best bet - the only superior useable by all classes, and with 2 new classes coming, it should become popular to offset any other superior used.

The Yoink · Dec 22, 2005, 04:44 AM // 04:44

invest in the more-costly keys.... stack 'em, stack 'em, stack 'em!

Unholy Sinister · Dec 22, 2005, 04:56 AM // 04:56

Do what I do, and buy fow armor, and buy more if u have stuff left, then when u have room again, start collecting stuff, I personally collect the necro green items. You can also buy very rare items that will make u get rid of everything else, such as gold crystallines, or dwarven axes, or things of that sort.

generik · Dec 22, 2005, 04:58 AM // 04:58

You can't possibly have a million plat..

It is only 1000 max

strcpy · Dec 22, 2005, 07:53 AM // 07:53

I would guess that the superior vigor first, crafting items for plain armor, superior absorption next.

The vigor is usable by any class and isn't very likely to be over shadowed by anything. Unless the level cap increases (and I doubt that) it will always be the highest you can get. With more classes and more users this should be a pretty safe bet, even if other general superiors are released the likelyhood of a better health stat is slight.

The current normal crafting items - again I doubt that the current armors are going anywhere and that they will not be used. Even the new armors will most likely still use some of the old materials. The only issue is that they are cheap - can't get too much value with wooden planks. The more mundane rare crafting material falls somewhere between this calss and the next - I doubt that steel, fur squares, etc will ever really drop in demand. They are just too usefull for the average player and will always be if Anet keeps new "plain" armors balanced.

Absorption is kinda the same thing, except it isn't usable by all classes. I doubt that warriors will find anything better, the only thing that could happen is if w/* are not the easiest build that everyone runs one or so. If so then the bottom will drop from them, but I highly suspect that added classes will not really replace the warrior - if they do then Anet will have done something almost no other RPG has done and it will be well worth the price of the gold you loose

Things like ecto's - I don't know. Will fissure still be something people want or the next expensive armor? Will it also use ecto? If those two answers are
"yes" then they should be somewhat safe, though more expensive armors with different materials will lower thier demand quite a bit. I suspect the answer to this is something of a "no" - fissure will stay but another ultra-high end armor will come about that doesn't use ectos.

If I had the money (I don't and most likely never will) I would do what I do with my 401(k) plan, 50% in low risk stable items, 25% in medium risk, and 25% in high risk. In each of those categories diversify. If the markets go south you tend not to loose much, if any. If you guess right you still have the option to make a lot of money.

To translate to GW and my opinion - lots in sup. vigors and common and the common "rare" crafting materials (watch for lows on these too). Next a good split between sup absorptions, ectos, and shards, most likely these will retain their value, but may not. Lastly put some money in rubies, saphires, monstrous items, etc. Anet will *eventually* have some use for them and if it is a high end item you stand to make a substantial profit.

With the above I don't feel you have a great chance of loosing everything, most likely stay pretty much the same. But, if things go a certain way then you stand to make a substantial amount of money. In investments generally the more you stand to make the higher your risk of loosing. If you really know and watch the market or have insider information you can stand to make A LOT of money, for us mere mortals that want to do other things the above is good mix. You can play with the percentages (and there can certainly be some argument - maybe Anet said something about rubies I missed) but it will still be a similar idea.

Of course, plain gold is the safest and what I would try and stay with it if I want safe, but I'm assuming that you have to have money outside of that now.

Shadowspawn X · Dec 22, 2005, 03:08 PM // 15:08

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Originally Posted by strcpy

Of course, plain gold is the safest and what I would try and stay with it if I want safe, but I'm assuming that you have to have money outside of that now.

I disagree, gold is not the safest and has consistantly been the worsts wealth vehicule since the inception of the game. The reason for this is inflation because of the constantly rising prices in GW the gold piece buys less and less every day. The sinking value of the GW gold peice has caused it not to be desirable in trade for high end items as more and more ppl only accept ecto and gems in trade on high end items.

It is going to be impossible to carry wealth over from chapter 1 to chapter 2 of any significance. And truth be told ANet should not allow it for the stability of the game. I can see now people running into chapter two and buying a 1000k plat of every commodity and wrecking the economy imediately. While stockpiling every new rare commodity.

The solution would be to create a new land that didn't use gold as the standard of commerce but an entirely different form of currency. If this is not done then the integrity of the chapter two economy will be shot to hell in a hand basket in less than 24 hours.

PuppetSoul · Dec 22, 2005, 03:40 PM // 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X

I disagree, gold is not the safest and has consistantly been the worsts wealth vehicule since the inception of the game. The reason for this is inflation because of the constantly rising prices in GW the gold piece buys less and less every day. The sinking value of the GW gold peice has caused it not to be desirable in trade for high end items as more and more ppl only accept ecto and gems in trade on high end items.

It is going to be impossible to carry wealth over from chapter 1 to chapter 2 of any significance. And truth be told ANet should not allow it for the stability of the game. I can see now people running into chapter two and buying a 1000k plat of every commodity and wrecking the economy imediately. While stockpiling every new rare commodity.

The solution would be to create a new land that didn't use gold as the standard of commerce but an entirely different form of currency. If this is not done then the integrity of the chapter two economy will be shot to hell in a hand basket in less than 24 hours.

If they did that there would BE a chapter 2...

The idea of chapter 2 as an expansion and not a standalone is that they're pumping the playerbase for cash, and carrying over their existing characters is the #1 concern of every single one of these players.

Now for a solution-

Since you have 1.4 mil plat, you can cause an organized artificial inflation of a commodity of you're choice, with several dozen people doing likewise, you could pump something with no value at all (say... silk), to astronomical prices, and then cash out the 20-30k you're carrying in your inventory. While the buy price sails like a balloon, it's very slow to settle (it settles over TIME since the one anti-ecto stockmarket update, not quantity sold back). So technically you could store million upon millions in an item which is only "worth" 10 gold but force it over 200-300 buyback by organizing a "Ch2 bankers guild" or something. Repeating this process every week (which is how long it takes to settle back down to "absolutely worthless" could be... wait, thats what some of us have been doing with bones... nevermind... I said nothing. >_>

Manic Smile · Dec 22, 2005, 05:05 PM // 17:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by PuppetSoul

If they did that there would BE a chapter 2...

The idea of chapter 2 as an expansion and not a standalone is that they're pumping the playerbase for cash, and carrying over their existing characters is the #1 concern of every single one of these players.

Now for a solution-

Since you have 1.4 mil plat, you can cause an organized artificial inflation of a commodity of you're choice, with several dozen people doing likewise, you could pump something with no value at all (say... silk), to astronomical prices, and then cash out the 20-30k you're carrying in your inventory. While the buy price sails like a balloon, it's very slow to settle (it settles over TIME since the one anti-ecto stockmarket update, not quantity sold back). So technically you could store million upon millions in an item which is only "worth" 10 gold but force it over 200-300 buyback by organizing a "Ch2 bankers guild" or something. Repeating this process every week (which is how long it takes to settle back down to "absolutely worthless" could be... wait, thats what some of us have been doing with bones... nevermind... I said nothing. >_>

I got some plat I can put into this...some pm me next time this gones round...

AxeMe · Dec 22, 2005, 05:41 PM // 17:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by PuppetSoul

If they did that there would BE a chapter 2...

you can cause an organized artificial inflation of a commodity of you're choice, with several dozen people doing likewise, you could pump something with no value at all (say... silk), to astronomical prices, and then cash out the 20-30k you're carrying in your inventory. While the buy price sails like a balloon, it's very slow to settle (it settles over TIME since the one anti-ecto stockmarket update, not quantity sold back). So technically you could store million upon millions in an item which is only "worth" 10 gold but force it over 200-300 buyback by organizing a "Ch2 bankers guild" or something. Repeating this process every week (which is how long it takes to settle back down to "absolutely worthless" could be... wait, thats what some of us have been doing with bones... nevermind... I said nothing. >_>

That's evil, totally wrong and brilliant. It should work.

Deadlyjunk · Dec 22, 2005, 06:17 PM // 18:17

Listen: there is a very easy way to store all your money overflow:

-The Deadlyjunk, White Mantle Exile, Arm of Hades
-Priestess of Arah, Artemis Incarnate, Hand of Denial

Six character over 2 accounts that you will find more than willing to help you get rid of all that cash... c'mon, you know you want to! It's Christmas!

Ok so, all my begging for cash aside:
For large scale investments:
- Rubies and Sapphires: As there is a lot of speculation about them being useable in chapter two, they might rise to ecto level prices. On the other hand, them having a use will probably also increase their drop rate, thus bringing their value down again. Conclusion: High risk
- Ectoplasm: BAD IDEA. Ecto prices are wobbling the whole time, and are trending DOWN. You could lose a fortune (if you want to lose a fortune, why do it this way when you could be giving it to me?). VERY HIGH RISK
- Monstrous Claws/Fangs: Personally, I beleive that this is one of the best options. Their prices are steady and low, but as they will probably get a use in Ch2, they are likely to experience a boom. If their prices fall, you've lost very little, seeing as they're already practically worthless. Very Low risk
- Green items: Too much supply, to little demand. Unthinkable
- Black Dye: Two whisky. Erm, too risky. Drop rate has increased = prices trend DOWN. BAD
- Cheaper dyes: another reasonably safe option in my opinion. Silver has been very steady (even rising slightly) over the past months, so I think that's a good option. Good
Common crafting materials: Can never be bad, but won't make you a killing either. Wood and iron ftw! Moderately Positive

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Conclusion:
- Common crafting materials, cheap dyes, monstrous fangs/claws = good
- Giving to me: better
- Rest: BAD

Barazur · Dec 22, 2005, 08:54 PM // 20:54

Other accounts.

In this moment rubies and sapphires are a good investment also. Whatever prices go, you can always use em in chapter 2

ange1 · Dec 22, 2005, 09:43 PM // 21:43

yeah i agreen with the key idea to keep ur wealth lol